I mean the guy who made the movie thought it was "too horrific" so it's not like this concept is from left field.ArmandFancypants wrote:I would understand the criticism if TOD hadn't done the hard yards to establish that is has no connection to reality whatsoever...
If they were making Nike shoes I might wince.
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What if the filmmaker sides with a character whose moral choices are dubious at best? Isn't that grounds for disliking a movie?mchekhov 2: Chek Harder wrote:disliking a character's personality or disagreeing with the choices they make is not grounds to deem a film bad
It depends. If the central characters become annoying I blame the filmmakers. This is one of the reasons why I prefer Better Call Saul to Breaking Bad, even though the latter has higher highs. Mike and Saul are fascinating anti heroes, Walter and Jesse were interesting to watch for the most part, but for a good portion of the show they also verged on being obnoxious. There came a time I felt very detached from the two. For me what kept the show afloat was the terrific set of supporting characters rather than the two leads.£
There's probably a distinction to be made here between "disagreeing with the choices they make" and "disagreeing with the stupid decisions they make" that has a more of a fine gradient than a haunted house split up or handing a loaded gun to a four-year-old.mchekhov 2: Chek Harder wrote:disliking a character's personality or disagreeing with the choices they make is not grounds to deem a film bad
I agree obviously, but it's worth pointing out that creating characters who make choices you can't personally understnad or empathize with, when the GOAL of the movie is to create that connection, is probably cause to call a film bad. Obviously there's a million examples where characters are meant to be opaque or problematic, ala PTAs movies or something.mchekhov 2: Chek Harder wrote:disliking a character's personality or disagreeing with the choices they make is not grounds to deem a film bad
Personally, if characters make too many outright stupid decisions with emotional logic and the plot/narrative/themes hinge on that lapse of judgement, personally I check out. I've posted many examples, but one of them is how in Pan's Labryinth the two people with the rabits never pointed to the bag saying "but fo real real, look at my hunting bag" and instead let themselves become victims of their own inability to state an obvious fact that would've let them off the hook (potentially). It's like being pulled over by a real bullish cop and your proof of insurance isn't in your wallet it's in your glove compartment but you're too scared to look there and let yourself get a ticket. Only times a million in intensity since it's life or death. I have to on some level understand how and why a person is the way they're written in a story for me to care about 'em.